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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:46:00 -
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And of course 0.0 is filled with tradehubs where at least 40 persons are.
Welcome to the real world, 0.0 is mostly empty.
Right now local helps pvp'ers as much as it makes it harder for them. Of course gatecampers who are afraid for a fair fight are basicly the only group who want to keep local. Oh noez, they come with as much ships as we have, lets run.
For pirate gangs in low sec it is much better without local (yeah they are too pvp'ers, not all camp gates to gank noob ships, like you probably do). Sure you dont know immediatly if there are ratters in belts, but that is like making 3 warps and you got entire system covered with directional scanner (and then you got more info than you had from local). And unless the ratting carebear is seriously bored, he wont be pressing directional scanner every second, and he wont run because he doesnt know the pirates are there.
Which makes it basicly a bit strange that he calls everyone who disagree with him a carebear, since the carebears are arguably those who loses most with removal of local. (as in low sec/0.0 carebears, high sec carebears wont care, and if they have an opinion they want to keep it).
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 27/04/2008 14:56:02
I'll take that as a: "I lost but i am too ******** to admit it".
That was at kale
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Kale Kold
Originally by: Furb Killer
Edited by: Furb Killer on 27/04/2008 14:56:02
I'll take that as a: "I lost but i am too ******** to admit it".
That was at kale
Sorry did i miss something? Give me one good reason why local is either overpowered or needs getting rid of and i'll give you a counter! Your turn! 
So wannabe gatecamping pirates cant run when another gang approaches with a size that comes close to the size of the gatecamping gang.
So macro'ers cant log off when someone enters local.
So people actually got to use those nice scanners for knowing if there is someone in a system
So more strategies are possible, when you can hide in a system without everyone knowing who is there, from which corp/alliance and how many.
Obvious failure is obvious
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 27/04/2008 15:14:57
1. you realise they actually use intel channels, so they know where you are...
2. Thats why the scanner was invented (idiot)
3. Exactly, scanner wont reach that far. So you can hide somewhere if you got a nice safespot without being scanned (or at least not being scanned from the gates).
4. Your stupidity is becoming legendary.
Anyway i checked some of your 'pvp' activity on battleclinic. Care to show me your last fair fight? I checked a bit your last kills, and i have found an astonishing one pvp ship you destroyed in the last 30 kills, and that was 3v1 with HIC + battlecruiser + command ship vs 1 battlecruiser.
Obvious moron is obvious.
You make it pretty clear that local can be removed as intel channel without large problems, as long as the average eve player got a higher iq than 30, unlike you. But you are too stupid to think of any other way than local to get intel.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 27/04/2008 15:43:59
I indeed dont have much pvp kills. Earning isk for nicer mission ship, then gonna do pvp again. But i do it solo, and wont run away for a fight like you would. I am not a pirate, if i wanted i would have had twice as many kills.
If you would look at those kills, you would know they all had combat fitting (well except the pod, but he was stupid enough not to warp out), and that it was a 6 vs 1 situation. I knew they outnumbered me, but i didnt run like you would. I accepted it and made the best of it. I took out 4 of their ships before i was destroyed, and that was the first time i did solo pvp. Intresting huh, my first time solo pvp i got more fair kills than you with all your experience.
You dont need much pvp experience to use some logic and realise you are stupid.
1. Just the locals need to be in that channel, so they can kick your ass before you dock/log.
2. Yes
3. Epic stupidity. That is just the truth, live with it. Why would you hide for 6 hours without doing anything? Not logging in is much easier. System got gatecamp. Group got a cov ops frig, black ops BS that is probably boosted with dedicated fuel bay, and a group recon ships and others who can be bridged. They jump in far from the gatecamps scanners. Then they warp toward the gatecampers and have fun. Even the ships that cant warp cloaked wont have a problem, since the campers cant get out fast enough when they only see the attackers when they are warping toward them.
Or of course you just hide the entire fleet in a system you know your enemy is coming through.
4. I prefer to call it the truth!
5. You seem to mistake pirating with senseless gatecamping to get easy kills.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 27/04/2008 16:15:13
Do you have more real kills than i have? Your last kills:
iteron IV (cargo expanders)
caracel (pve fit)
dominix (no tank fitted at all, pve logistic setup)
ferox (pve setup)
drake (pve setup)
ibis (normal setup)
kestrel (not really fitted)
mammoth (cargo expanders)
caracel (circus fitting)
imicus (no fitting)
vexor (warpstabs vs hic)
drake (half fitted)
imicus (noob fitted, pve)
iteron IV (mining fitted i guess)
kestrel (pve fitted)
ibis (normal fitting)
prowler (no cloak fitted = dead)
bestower (cargo expanders)
drake (pve fitted)
myrmidon (w00t first pvp fit, sucky one though. And 3v1)
kestrel (pve fitted)
caracel (half pve fitted)
merlin (cargo expanders)
badger (no fitting)
omen (pvp fitting, wow second one)
raven (pvp fitted i guess, too bad he forgot to fit his tank)
taranis (pvp fitted, yeah 3 in a row)
covetor (expanders)
After that i had enough of it. Really impressed by your kills. I suppose fair fights arent your strongest point.
I think we got different definitions of pvp fitted, but i think it is safe to say 80-90% of your targets have no defense, and of the remaining targets 80% is outnumbered.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:16:00 -
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Lmao, you have no idea what pirating is. How much isk did you make from the ibis? And all the kestrel's?
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:21:00 -
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I asked you how local helped you, not how local helped us. Finding you is btw pretty easy. I have played long in low sec, and i dont recall i ever didnt notice a gatecamp i went through...
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